Katie Ryder: We Worry


Ryder dives into our anxieties with the writer Daniel Smith @ Guernica.

Well, what do you think is going to happen? What’s the worst that can happen here?”

Daniel Smith is talking to Daniel Smith.

“I’ll give a shitty talk tomorrow.”

“Okay, so let’s say you give a shitty talk. What do you define as a shitty talk?”

“Well, if people are bored.”

When Smith asks the questions he is standing in for his psychiatrist. When he answers, he is just being Smith.

“How many people?”

“If more than half the people are bored.”

“Have you ever been able to quantify how many people are bored?”


“Have you ever given a talk where you felt like you bored the majority of the audience?”
Smith furrows his brow and frowns slightly as if he’s surprised and displeased by the question.

“Yes, once.”

“And what happened?”

“What do you mean what happened?”

“Well what consequences did it have?”

“I felt bad.”

“Okay, you felt bad. Are there any other consequences? Did they write to you and say, ‘You shouldn’t have done that?’”


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